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	<description>another bloody blog</description>
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		<title>By: Second Rate: A year on &#171; my small corner</title>
		<link>http://espero.wordpress.com/2007/11/08/entering-the-fray/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>Second Rate: A year on &#171; my small corner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] me  and I&#8217;ve realised that that is regardless of which side of &#8216;the debate&#8217; (or kerfuffle!) they [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Potter Rach</title>
		<link>http://espero.wordpress.com/2007/11/08/entering-the-fray/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>Potter Rach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 01:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a beautifully articulated blog! What you said about not confusing the church&#039;s  treatment of you with God&#039;s view of you, resonates deeply with me. It still baffles me that in SOME of our churches, sexism, is totally acceptable - it is preached, accepted and goes unchallenged by an unconcerned ALL male leadership. I&#039;m not even talking about issues like women in ministry but rather church rules such as &#039;No women are allowed to be part of the welcoming group to greet people as they enter church&#039; I wish I was joking. I&#039;m not. I feel like yelling from my pew &#039;What is this saying to our young girls, our  female teenagers struggling with poor self-worth, women searching for identity!&#039;.............................................................Maybe, I should start yelling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a beautifully articulated blog! What you said about not confusing the church&#8217;s  treatment of you with God&#8217;s view of you, resonates deeply with me. It still baffles me that in SOME of our churches, sexism, is totally acceptable &#8211; it is preached, accepted and goes unchallenged by an unconcerned ALL male leadership. I&#8217;m not even talking about issues like women in ministry but rather church rules such as &#8216;No women are allowed to be part of the welcoming group to greet people as they enter church&#8217; I wish I was joking. I&#8217;m not. I feel like yelling from my pew &#8216;What is this saying to our young girls, our  female teenagers struggling with poor self-worth, women searching for identity!&#8217;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.Maybe, I should start yelling.</p>
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		<title>By: wylie</title>
		<link>http://espero.wordpress.com/2007/11/08/entering-the-fray/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>wylie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great to hear your thoughts!</description>
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		<title>By: Second Rate: Two things to remember&#8230; &#171; my small corner</title>
		<link>http://espero.wordpress.com/2007/11/08/entering-the-fray/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>Second Rate: Two things to remember&#8230; &#171; my small corner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 22:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] nearly walked away from a conversation in church this morning about this ‘kerfuffle’, because my feelings around the debate are still red raw and more often than not, tears spring [...]</description>
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		<title>By: weeirishbreakfast</title>
		<link>http://espero.wordpress.com/2007/11/08/entering-the-fray/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>weeirishbreakfast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heya, been on a journey bouncing round blogs and I&#039;m going to of to think a bit about this women in ministry thing...which is probably a good idea as my wife is applying for the ministry...merci beuacoup</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heya, been on a journey bouncing round blogs and I&#8217;m going to of to think a bit about this women in ministry thing&#8230;which is probably a good idea as my wife is applying for the ministry&#8230;merci beuacoup</p>
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		<title>By: qmonkey</title>
		<link>http://espero.wordpress.com/2007/11/08/entering-the-fray/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>qmonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>be great if you could go more into   how jesus&#039; treatment of women was liberating. Would it not have been massive if he had chosen women apostles, or if god had chosen femail gospel writers. Given that he didn&#039;t (we assume deliberatly)... what does this mean? Or even if he told St Paul  to tell the ephesions to make sure they get the women involved in the teaching a bit more....   and... it may be a 2000 year old document... but we&#039;re always being told its as relevant today as it ever was - i worry about   &#039;the buttet bible&#039; (as i may have said before)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>be great if you could go more into   how jesus&#8217; treatment of women was liberating. Would it not have been massive if he had chosen women apostles, or if god had chosen femail gospel writers. Given that he didn&#8217;t (we assume deliberatly)&#8230; what does this mean? Or even if he told St Paul  to tell the ephesions to make sure they get the women involved in the teaching a bit more&#8230;.   and&#8230; it may be a 2000 year old document&#8230; but we&#8217;re always being told its as relevant today as it ever was &#8211; i worry about   &#8216;the buttet bible&#8217; (as i may have said before)</p>
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		<title>By: it sounds like a whisper at jaybercrow</title>
		<link>http://espero.wordpress.com/2007/11/08/entering-the-fray/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>it sounds like a whisper at jaybercrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] small contribution to the revolutionary movement begun by smallcorner and lilytodd and espero, continued by zoomtard, and immortalised in film by vox. With apologies to vox for extended use of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: soapbox</title>
		<link>http://espero.wordpress.com/2007/11/08/entering-the-fray/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>soapbox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 00:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>welcome to the blogsphere and what an entry. Sitting at the willowcreek leadership conference watching bill interview Carly Fiorini - former CEO of Hewlett-Packard made me wonder about some of this. Where is there room in the church for the female high fliers - for highly talented female leaders and teachers? Surely teaching sunday school is almost an insult to women who would do a far better job than some of the men currently in those positions? Surely its not enough to talk about how Jesus&#039; treatment of women was liberating without looking at what that means today? a few more questions to add to the growing pile...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>welcome to the blogsphere and what an entry. Sitting at the willowcreek leadership conference watching bill interview Carly Fiorini &#8211; former CEO of Hewlett-Packard made me wonder about some of this. Where is there room in the church for the female high fliers &#8211; for highly talented female leaders and teachers? Surely teaching sunday school is almost an insult to women who would do a far better job than some of the men currently in those positions? Surely its not enough to talk about how Jesus&#8217; treatment of women was liberating without looking at what that means today? a few more questions to add to the growing pile&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Modern Life: Blogging Peril &#171; my small corner</title>
		<link>http://espero.wordpress.com/2007/11/08/entering-the-fray/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>Modern Life: Blogging Peril &#171; my small corner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 00:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Being somewhat impartial to a slice of healthy optimism with lashings of heart-on-your-sleeve, her innocent paddling became a full-on skinny-dipping adventure (metaphorically speaking, of course) as she plunged into 365ing and then the straw that broke the camel&#8217;s back&#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Being somewhat impartial to a slice of healthy optimism with lashings of heart-on-your-sleeve, her innocent paddling became a full-on skinny-dipping adventure (metaphorically speaking, of course) as she plunged into 365ing and then the straw that broke the camel&#8217;s back&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: meinmysmallcorner</title>
		<link>http://espero.wordpress.com/2007/11/08/entering-the-fray/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>meinmysmallcorner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 10:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I popped into the university Chaplaincy yesterday to &quot;kill ten minutes&quot;; expecting a quick friendly chat about nothing in particular, but suddenly I&#039;m fighting back tears because it turns out that this particular Chaplain is discussing the issue in his church.  He&#039;s still not sure what the Bible says, but at least he&#039;s making the effort to find out.  Hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I popped into the university Chaplaincy yesterday to &#8220;kill ten minutes&#8221;; expecting a quick friendly chat about nothing in particular, but suddenly I&#8217;m fighting back tears because it turns out that this particular Chaplain is discussing the issue in his church.  He&#8217;s still not sure what the Bible says, but at least he&#8217;s making the effort to find out.  Hope.</p>
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